A candid conversation with a counselor and pastor about their individual journeys with depression and the conversations we need to be having in the church.

No More Pretending: Depression, Suicide, & The Church w/Jarrid Wilson

In Podcast by Debra Fileta

It’s easy to pretend we’ve got it all together. Especially in the Church.

It’s easy to put our best face forward, to post our best photos on Instagram, and to tell our best stories for the world to hear.

But none of that really matters if we’re pretending to be something we’re not. None of that matters if we’re actually hurting on the inside….if we’re not taking care of ourselves from the inside-out… if we’re isolated and alone with our struggles.

It’s okay to not be okay.

After the heart-breaking and tragic suicide of 30-year-old, Pastor Andrew Stoecklein a couple weeks ago, the conversation of what’s happening on the inside-out is one that the church is starting to open up to. I intend to bring this important conversation regarding our mental health to the surface with all I’ve got.

As a professional counselor, I’ve both seen and experienced the darkness of depression…and journeyed the road of coming to terms with how much power I give it my life. There’s so much about this I’m talking about today with a very special guest.

Because my guest today has also walked this journey. Jarrid Wilson is a pastor who has been so outspoken about his own journey with depression and suicidal thoughts. Not only that, but an incredible ministry was birthed out of his own personal journey of pain called Anthem of Hope, reminding people that…

“It’s okay to not be okay” (CLICK TO TWEET!)

Our conversation today is one that you CAN’T miss in light of what’s going on in the world today. Here you have it….a professional counselor and a pastor talking to you – not at you — from their own personal wounds and struggles. Saying, it’s okay not to be okay. We’ve been there, too. 

If you’re struggling with depression or anxiety in any way, take the time to listen. Maybe you’ve never struggled with mental health issues but know someone who has, take some time to listen. Maybe you’re a leader or pastor or teacher in ministry, take the time to listen.

No More Pretending

In this episode we cover some personal and important issues including:

  • Why Christians aren’t exempt from depression, and the two main factors that cause depression to make it’s entry into people’s lives.
  • Jarrid and I both share stories about our individual journeys with depression and what was helpful for each of us in finding relief.
  • We talk about how depression has impacted our respective marriages.
  • Why Jesus, prayer, medication and counseling all go hand-in-hand.
  • We talk about our reaction to those people who ignorantly tell us to “just have faith” in light of mental and physical health issues.
  • I share that depression is a 3-part illness, and how we can navigate each part to achieve relief and even healing.
  • Some signs and symptoms that you might be struggling with depression and don’t recognize it.

You’re going to love this candid conversation so get ready to for this raw, honest, and challenging Episode 010 of the Love + Relationships Podcast.


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Connect with Jarrid Wilson and Anthem of Hope, an incredible ministry aimed at helping people understand that it’s okay to not be okay. Check out their resources and get started on your journey of healing. 

If you’re struggling in your marriage today, and looking for hope, I invite you to journey through the process of Choosing Marriage: Why It Has To Start With We > Me.

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DEBRA FILETA is a Licensed Professional Counselor, national speaker, relationship expert, and author of Choosing Marriage and True Love Dates. She’s also the host of the hotline style Love + Relationships Podcast. Her popular relationship advice blog, TrueLoveDates.com, reaches millions of people with the message of healthy relationships. Connect with her on FacebookInstagram, or Twitter